If I may, Mr. Chair, I'll just point out...and it's not due to anything other than making sure that we see the difference.
To the best of my knowledge, and I stand to be corrected, it was never the former parliamentary security people we have had a problem with. That has never been an issue. They understand, because they've been here so long.
It's when we get into the interface of the RCMP and the House. At one of the last meetings, they told us that merging the two was going to be the great solution and was going to solve a lot of things, but it hasn't.
I just wanted to point out that one of the issues right now is who ultimately controls the security in this place. Let's just understand, as we're going through this, that those who made the decision to intervene with MPs were not the former security staff who were dedicated just to the Hill.
I'm not blaming the RCMP. We ran into the same thing at Queen's Park when we had the interface of the security people at Queen's Park, along with the OPP and the Toronto police. We have the same thing here because there's that merger.
I just think, with everything going on right now in terms of the former Hill dedicated staff fighting for respect, that it's important for us to acknowledge that it was not them, at any time that I'm aware of, who stepped in and prevented members.