Evidence of meeting #17 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was recommendation.
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10:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
I think we can go on and on with these jabs, but they are entertaining. They're quite witty for this time of night.
LIB 13 is amended with those inclusions but is not limited to those suggestions. Do we agree to adopt it?
10:25 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
LIB 14, I believe, was moved up to the health section and has been adopted. Is that correct? We adopted that one, right?
It looks as though everyone is saying yes.
CPC 2 has already been defeated, but CPC 1 is just showing up for the first time in this report. It reads, “That the House's deadline be extended and the Committee authorized to continue its study, to allow for further evidence to be taken and to permit a fuller and more thoughtful analysis of the issues.”
It's in line with the first recommendation, LIB 13.
Go ahead, Mr. Turnbull.
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I have a quick suggestion. We're talking about CPC 1 and BQ 13 a bit further down, and I wonder if those could be combined just for expediency. They're very similar.
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
CPC 1 and BQ 13 are both asking that the PROC committee continue its study. Is there agreement?
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I'm actually indifferent as to which one we choose. Does anybody have a suggestion?
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
We could always go with the first one on the list, CPC 1, and then add something to it that you like from BQ 13. That always seems to be the easy way of going about it.
Are you okay with CPC 1 as is, or would you like to include any element from BQ 13 that you think is unique?
Go ahead, Mr. Richards.
10:25 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
I can make a suggestion that might help.
As you said, we could start with the full text of CPC 1, and then we could include the last portion of BQ 13, which says, “in order to be ready to respond quickly to a new crisis.”
10:25 p.m.
Bloc
Christine Normandin Bloc Saint-Jean, QC
I agree with adding the part where we say that we will continue the work and update it.
However, I have a question for the Conservatives. In French, it says: “Que la date butoir de la Chambre soit reportée ...” I would like to know what date this is. What exactly does the wording of the first part mean?
10:25 p.m.
Conservative
Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB
We were given a May 15 deadline, and it was simply to indicate that we wouldn't have to stop on May 15 and could continue to look at this. That was the idea behind it.
10:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Since it looks like we might meet our deadline for an initial report—and I'm really hoping we do, because we have only a few more recommendations and we're on the last page—maybe it could be worded that the....
Do you want to keep that deadline language in there, or just say that the procedure committee should continue the study beyond this report?
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
Omar Alghabra Liberal Mississauga Centre, ON
Madam Chair, that was precisely what I was going to propose. I think the issue of the deadline is moot, given that we are submitting a report. We can just say, “That the Procedure Committee continue this study”.
10:30 p.m.
An hon. member
Sure.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
We're taking the first few words from BQ 13, the middle of CPC 1 and then the ending of BQ 13. Essentially those say the same thing. Is everyone in agreement?
Ms. Blaney, I think you wanted to say something.
10:30 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
NDP 10 and NDP 11 talk about gender representation and regional representation, and they're looking back. I apologize that I am a little bit tired and slow—and I give you guys all credit because it's 10:30 in Ottawa and only 7:30 here, so you're probably more tired than I am—but I am wondering if there is a place to add this. If we're talking about a future study, I think those are important factors that should be looked at. I'm just throwing it out there that regional representation and gender representation be added.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
As a point about accuracy from the clerk, the deadline wasn't the House's deadline; it was the committee's deadline, which was imposed by the House. It seems that we're rewording that language anyway, but it would have been inaccurate to state it that way.
Andre, do you have what the revised recommendation looks like? Okay.
Ms. Blaney, I think we can still get to your points. I think they're unique and different enough that we should consider them separately. Is that okay?
On CPC 1, as amended, are we all in favour?
10:30 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
CPC 1, as amended, is adopted.
CPC 2 has not been adopted and BQ 13 has been struck. Now we're on to NDP 9.
10:30 p.m.
NDP
Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC
Madam Chair, I'm happy to remove that one at this point. We have the additions that I required in the first recommendation.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
NDP 9 is removed. Is everyone in favour of NDP 10?
Go ahead, Mr. Turnbull.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I have a really quick suggestion again. I think NDP 10 and NDP 11 are similar enough that they could read “review regional and gender” or “review gender and regional representation”. They're almost identical, other than that their focus is different, so maybe they could be combined and we could vote on them both together. I would support both.
10:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota
Is everyone in agreement to adopt an amended NDP 10 that will include “regional representation”?