Evidence of meeting #5 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was poffenroth.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tim Garrity  Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island
Kimberly Poffenroth  Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Justin Vaive

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Mr. Garrity.

12:35 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Thank you very much.

Those are all of my questions, Madam Chair.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota

Thank you.

Next we have Monsieur Therrien.

You have 2.5 minutes.

12:35 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

To vote, you had to wear a mask. Were there any cases where a voter did not wear a mask and where this created a dispute or raised problems at the polling place? If so, was that individual expelled or did he or she comply with the mask rule? Did this situation occur?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

Kimberly Poffenroth

I'll go first on that one.

In New Brunswick at the time of the election, individuals were required to wear masks only when social distancing could not be maintained. As the election body, we encouraged all voters to wear masks. I had a lot of, I'll say, “earned media”. I did a lot of interviews during that election, and I made it clear that no elector was going to be turned away from the polls, from voting—a basic democratic right—for not wearing a mask.

We did have individuals who showed up at polls and said they weren't going to. I'm very proud of the work of our poll workers. They made accommodations for those individuals. They spread out the vote. If a person came and wasn't going to wear a mask, they kept people back so they weren't entering the poll as closely behind that individual, and they made sure everything was wiped down after that individual went through and voted.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

Tim Garrity

Here in P.E.I. there is no mask mandate. Masks are just being recommended. They are strongly recommended at the polling locations. We have them available. We also have face shields for those who present and choose not to wear a mask.

We haven't encountered any issues with this, but nobody would be turned away. We would do the same thing. We would offer a little bit of extra distancing in between, if that were to happen.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

We saw that the voter turnout rate was pretty much the same.

Ms. Poffenroth, were there more spoiled ballots than usual in this election because of the voting process?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

Kimberly Poffenroth

I'm sorry, but I don't have those numbers right in front of me. I don't believe it was significantly different, but I can't say for certain.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

At first glance, you didn't see a big difference.

Did I understand you correctly?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

Kimberly Poffenroth

That's correct. There may have been a few more mail-in ballots that couldn't be processed, but not a significant number.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota

Do you have an answer, Mr. Garrity, as well? That's pretty much all the time we have.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

Tim Garrity

No. We are not at the point of counting the ballots yet—that will happen next Monday night—so we can't really make a comment on that right now.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ruby Sahota

That makes complete sense.

Thank you, Mr. Therrien.

Next is Mr. Blaikie.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

When voters who present at a polling station with a mask on are there to get their ballot, are they required to take their mask off for the identification process?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

Kimberly Poffenroth

No. In New Brunswick there is no facial identification process. If you're on the voters list, you say your name and your address. If you're on the voters list, you vote.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

Tim Garrity

We do ask people to present with identification, but if they do not have it, they can take what's called an “oath of elector”. It's a form they fill out to attest that they are who they say they are. Then they're able to proceed.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

If they're wearing a mask and they present ID, would they be asked to take the mask off?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

Tim Garrity

No, they would not.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Is there any concern that this has led to any kind of voter fraud in your elections?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Prince Edward Island

Tim Garrity

We have had no concern here on P.E.I.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Ms. Poffenroth.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

To return quickly to the question about political parties and campaigning, we heard that there was no agreement between parties. Different parties were doing different things. Did that present any challenge for you in conducting the election? Are there things you think might have gone more smoothly if the partisan actors within the electoral process had come to agreement about certain things, and, if so, what things do you think would have been helpful for partisans to agree on?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections New Brunswick

Kimberly Poffenroth

We didn't see it having an impact on the conduct of the election itself from our perspective.