The kinds of efforts that have been made between the presidents of Poland and Ukraine are commendable. They will continue. I know there are colleagues of mine in Ukraine who are working on these very issues. As was stated earlier, having academics and scholars take a second look and think about things based on archival evidence, not emotion, is a very good and welcome thing. That's happening in Ukraine and eastern Europe, more generally. Today, one of Ukraine's greatest friends, as we all know, is Poland—as well as Canada—in terms of supplying Ukraine with the kind of support it needs to fend off the invading Russians.
In Canada, what we all need to do is, as was stated earlier, take a second look. What happened to Mr. Hunka? Where's the evidence that he was guilty of anything other than membership in the Galicia Division? He explained how, as a teenager, watching his family members being deported to Siberia, where some were murdered, going into prisons in western Ukraine and Berezhany in the latter part of June 1941, and seeing mutilated women.... I'm not going to go into the descriptions. They're in my brief and they're pretty grotesque.
How can we, in 2024, say that what a teenager saw and then did out of hatred for the people who did it is wrong, particularly when there's no evidence that he himself was involved in any kind of war crime or crime against humanity?