Where I'll go with that, the culture of secrecy and I think disrespect of parliamentarians, is that since other questions of privilege and other issues started to come to light, multiple directives were issued to actually improve the process and say that parliamentarians must be informed. Even after those directives were issued, parliamentarians still weren't informed.
My point about the culture is that the protocol, that directive, was given to improve the process, and it was literally ignored with every excuse in the book as to why.
I'll just talk about the culture, Ms. Sgro. It's new and maybe we've been naive, but to me, it's the culture of taking any protocol or directive seriously and improving that. We've seen examples of that said, but not followed through on.
I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has comments on that.