Evidence of meeting #122 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was colleagues.

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Nathalie Drouin  Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council and National Security and Intelligence Advisor to the Prime Minister, Privy Council Office
Caroline Xavier  Chief, Communications Security Establishment

An hon. member

What is it? What is his...?

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

It's what he....

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

May I suggest a point of order?

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Just one second, colleagues. I know we have a lot of things flying in the air right now.

I want to clarify what's happening here. Monsieur Berthold is asking for unanimous consent to provide a subamendment because he does not have the ability to do so otherwise. The first thing we have to do is to decide whether or not we grant unanimous consent to Monsieur Berthold to present a subamendment to the subamendment.

Is it permissible as far as the committee is concerned? Are we clear on this?

Now I'm looking around the table. Are we granting Mr. Berthold unanimous consent...?

Sherry Romanado Liberal Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne, QC

No.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

I hear no.

Colleagues, we will now resume the discussion on the subamendment that Ms. Mathyssen has put forward, but I just want to intervene for a moment. This is getting.... It's self-explanatory where it's getting.

Colleagues, if you have commentary you would like to add to the subamendment Ms. Mathyssen has proposed, now is the time to do so. If you do not, we're going to get to a vote on her subamendment, which would then allow us to get back into discussion and, hopefully, a vote on the motion as amended.

I'm looking around the room. Does anybody want to speak to the subamendment?

Clerk, I ask you call the vote on whether or not the committee will accept the subamendment proposed by Ms. Mathyssen.

(Subamendment agreed to: yes 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Colleagues, we are now resuming debate on the motion as amended.

Mr. Berthold.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Mr. Chair, I would like to move another subamendment to the motion. I tried to do it in a very cordial way, with all my colleagues, but it didn't work. So I'm going to move that we make the following amendment to the motion, “no less than 2 hours, within 21 days of the adoption of the motion”.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Colleagues, we have a new amendment put forward by Mr. Berthold.

I see that Mr. Cooper would like to speak to it.

Mr. Cooper, the floor is yours.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to speak in favour of the amendment put forward by Mr. Berthold.

I would note that it is consistent with the spirit of the motion, namely that the minister come to provide the committee with an update of the minister's priorities at the beginning of the fall sitting. I think it's quite reasonable for the minister to be here before Thanksgiving.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Thank you, Mr. Cooper.

Seeing nobody else wanting to speak—

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

It bears repeating, Mr. Chair. I don't have it in front of me. I want to make sure of the wording; otherwise, I can't vote.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Okay.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Do you want me to read it, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

There are two ways to proceed. If you agree, Ms. Gaudreau, I can give the floor to Mr. Berthold so that he can reread his subamendment. If not, we'll have to give him a moment to write something.

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

I accept that he will reread his subamendment in French, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Okay.

Mr. Berthold, can you read it again, please?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

The motion would read as follows:

That the committee invite the Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs to appear before the committee for no less than 2 hours within 21 days of the adoption of the motion in relation to his priorities for the return of Parliament and his mandate.

The Chair Liberal Ben Carr

Is that correct, Ms. Gaudreau? Yes? Okay.

Colleagues, I'm looking around the room. No one is asking to speak to this.

I am going to ask the clerk to call the vote on the amendment proposed by Mr. Berthold.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Colleagues, I'm looking around the room. I believe everyone understands that we have an amended motion. We now need to either continue debate, which it doesn't look like anyone is interested in doing, or call a vote on the motion as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Colleagues, as my people say, mazel tov. We have accomplished a feat here. Mazel tov simply means congratulations. I don't know if we have a Yiddish translator back there.

Colleagues, I am now going to suspend briefly, because we're going to move in camera to discuss committee business. We know we have lots of things to do. I'm just going to allow the clerk and everybody else to kind of reset for a moment.

Thank you for your co-operation. We're going to to suspend. We will resume in camera and begin a conversation on committee business.

[Proceedings continue in camera]