Thank you.
I think all committee members would join me in deploring the torture and the treatment of Mr. Andy Li. I know that this is very personal for members of IPAC who have worked with him. I think it's important that this is on the record.
Mr. de Pulford, some of the counter we've heard from the government is that it's really complicated to inform members of Parliament and that there are lots of different kinds of cyber-attacks. They've tried to bury this in apparent complexity when, to me, it's very simple. If a person is targeted and the FBI tells you they're being targeted, you would just pass along that information. There are a number of countries that did inform their members of Parliament.
To break through the false claims of complexity here, what happened in those countries? What went well in terms of the process of informing members of Parliament, and what can we learn from that?