Yes. They're China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel, and we could go on. In 2015, the CSIS director, Mr. Michel Coulombe, testified in front of a Senate committee and referenced that 115 countries were practising cyber-offences or cyber-attacks. That was 115 countries back in 2015, according to the estimation of CSIS. That's more than half the countries.
It's very easy to be very offensive. Take a nerd who is good with computers, give him two Red Bulls and a computer, and he's good. That's it. That's all. He's gone. He's capable of doing a lot of damage.
What we need to understand—and Madame Gaudreau's question is so important—is the consequences, because we don't talk enough about the consequences, only to raise awareness and the level of urgency to start working on it. We're not necessarily able to curb the consequences right away, but we need to be capable of raising awareness, to pay more attention to what's going on and to realize that it will be worse before it gets better.