Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thanks to Professor Turnbull and Ms. Marineau for being here today. We appreciate your testimony.
Professor Turnbull, in your opening remarks, I think I agreed with everything you said, although I was a little shocked by the last statement and the apathy comment you made that we're sort of there and, from your perspective, it sounds like things are getting pretty bad.
From all of our work in this committee on this topic, our government has been making strides all along the way to address the evolving threat environment. That's not to say that we can't do a lot more, which I think is the very legitimate and authentic concern we all bring to this work in taking every threat to our democracy seriously. I think you shared that sentiment in your opening remarks, so I definitely relate to that.
In terms of how this committee and some of these conversations have become overly heated, I know that you made some comments about some of the things that the leader of the official opposition said. You called it “overheated rhetoric and making unfounded allegations”, I believe, at the time.
I'm wondering if you can expand on that in the sense that I think we really need to tone this down and focus on what measures would enhance our democracy. Would you not agree?