For the record, where Mr. Turnbull mentioned the Right Honourable David Johnston for “two hours”, it actually is “three hours”, just to make sure we're all in the same conversation. The number of hours is not changing. What is changing is that we reinvite the Right Honourable David Johnston to appear. If that is not received, then we look at the next step of summoning the Right Honourable David Johnston.
I will be honest with you. I don't think it will come to that. Based on the email chain that I just reviewed, he is very receptive to appearing. It seems like we have a date and we can make this work. We'll have to work on making sure the hours are available. I'm sure there are many people watching this meeting, so know that committee members are making their points as to why that would be relevant.
It's Mr. Berthold, and then I have Mr. Barrett.