But the public hearings are not the only things he's proposed. There is NSICOP. There are other institutions and panels and bodies set up that will be looking at this, so that the onus would still be on China. Also, to educate Canadians is an important part. I'm sure there's flexibility where, if some Canadians felt they couldn't come forward in a public manner, something could be put forward for them so that the evidence could still be taken and so that all is not for nothing.
Moving on to my second question, you've been at a deputy minister's level as well. You said you were taking in a lot of this type of information at the time, especially particular to China. Do you think it is not important, at this time in particular, for leaders of all parties to perhaps take the briefings they can get so that they, too, can become aware of the information that is out there?
I know that you've made some comments that, just as the Right Honourable David Johnston has disclosed some things without actually revealing intelligence secrets, discussions and commentary could still be made about the issue without disclosing those secrets, but it's important to have a better understanding and come from a place of knowledge. Would you not say so?