Look, I'll invoke a comment of the late Herb Gray and say that I don't accept the premise of the question—not of the member who posed, through the chair, the question today, but the idea that at least the kind of internship we provide, which, we argue, fits into the category of a volunteer, as it's an unpaid internship, constitutes any kind of benefit or gift.
In fact, oftentimes what we hear back from the public office holder is that is it more work for them than the benefit they gain from it. Because it is completely disassociated from our own activities, we only facilitate the program. We make no demands of the intern. There are no expectations before, during or after. The benefit to the public office holder is at best minimal, and more often than not, not at all.