Madam Chair, I do recall referring to the fact that my own children and Mr. Trudeau, as a young boy, did have opportunities to ski together four or five times. Between that time and when he became Prime Minister, I had no meetings with Mr. Trudeau, and our children, to my knowledge, did not.
When they became neighbours to us at Rideau Hall, I think I referred to the fact that it would be very nice for our grandchildren to have the chance to play with his children. That didn't occur, I don't think, on any occasion, but it still would have been a pleasant experience for us.