Madam Chair, I completely understand the question, and I hope you will understand the complexity of the answer.
The reality is that we do have distinct organizations with distinct mandates involved in the national security space to combat this threat. There is, at times, an appropriate withholding of specific information.
The news that individuals, parliamentarians and the general public in Canada are subjected to threats and intimidation is not news. It has been in the director of CSIS' annual reports for years and in materials in NSICOP reports. This is not new information.
I have had, with my counterparts, discussions about foreign interference, foreign influence, and I know they are not necessarily the same word.