If anything at all, it may have increased. Since the mid-1990s, as I testified before, we've noticed the foreign interference coming from the embassy in China. We found, in the record of Elections Canada that the embassy had given that year—1995—money to both the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party. We could see they were preparing the bed for this foreign interference.
Unfortunately, it was not understood or evaluated enough by CSIS, and we let this go on for decades. Even though I left CSIS after 2000, I kept working on the file and investigating the file for various clients. What we've seen is the Chinese become much more bold, much more audacious, in their way of operating, increasing the number of diplomats who are actually intelligence officers.