Evidence of meeting #30 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was women.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Tworek  Director, Centre for the Study of Democratic Institutions, University of British Columbia, As an Individual
Brumwell  Interim Executive Director, Equal Voice
Owen  Beaverbrook Chair in Media, Ethics and Communications, McGill University, As an Individual

11:55 a.m.

Interim Executive Director, Equal Voice

Lindsay Brumwell

Generally, we know that AI impacts women, due to harassment, but unfortunately, I don't have specific data or research. Equal Voice has not undertaken that. I would look to any colleagues or other witnesses to provide clearer, better and more concrete answers on that.

As I mentioned, we use comparators. In international polling, one of the questions we ask is this: Is there a role for women in political leadership? The fastest-growing group that says straight out, no, is young men under the age of 29.

I don't know how the programming is going, but I can tell you that, in our research since 2017, out of all the different demographics, this is the group in which we're consistently seeing an increase compared to men in other demographics or age categories. Those men seem to be more welcoming to women in politics.

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

That's very disturbing, and it may be an area in which I'd recommend further research.

Mr. Owen, perhaps you could shed some light on this.

April 23rd, 2026 / 11:55 a.m.

Beaverbrook Chair in Media, Ethics and Communications, McGill University, As an Individual

Taylor Owen

It's a difficult question, frankly. There's no question that it remains a challenge.

The information on which the models are being trained—there's no question—have a wide assortment of biases embedded in them. There are zero questions about it. Also, the people building these tools are largely the same demographic that built the previous generation of tools, and we saw some of the implications of that. As well, the final outputs of these products are themselves showing signs of some of these biases. All three of those things are true.

The AI problem is slightly different, though, when you're referencing social media. This is not based on any technical expertise I have, but there is much more abstraction and distance between the design decisions made by programmers and engineers and the ultimate output of the technological system with AI than there was for social media.

With social media, there was a very close connection. You would tweak the algorithm for a newsfeed, and this would have a direct effect on how the newsfeed behaved. You could do a content moderation algorithm that had a direct effect on what the user saw and didn't see or what was prioritized and what wasn't.

With AI, there are two different layers of it.

One is a model-weighting issue, which people have some control over, but in a very opaque way. We are directing a system. We're not controlling it in the training of a model. It's not entirely clear what the effect of those biases would be in the training of the model.

The second is on the output of the model and the interface through which we consume it. This is probably where we need to focus more, particularly on audit attention. It's not necessarily auditing language models themselves, but auditing the outputs of the chatbots, which have a layer of design in them and are probably more subject to the kinds of biases you're talking about. I'd probably focus attention on that set of problems.

Noon

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Do the others on the panel want to weigh in on that in the last 30 seconds?

Noon

Director, Centre for the Study of Democratic Institutions, University of British Columbia, As an Individual

Heidi Tworek

The one thing we see disproportionately affecting women in politics globally is the question of deepfakes. For example, in the U.K. election, we saw deepfakes against female candidates from all political parties, and we know that 95% to 99% of deepfakes are being aimed at women.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Chris Bittle

Thank you so much.

I'd like to thank our witnesses for appearing today and providing their testimony.

The committee will suspend as we go in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]