When I talk to them about careers, they tell me I don't make any sense at all.
With regard to colleges, one of the interesting things that sector councils developed with the ACCC, the Association of Community Colleges of Canada, was a series of what are called affinity groups. They developed an affinity group with each one of our sectors. It included deans and instructors and professors and so forth from across the country. For example, there's one dealing with mining, another dealing with high-tech issues, and so forth.
That is a process where teachers and deans and all these folks in colleges from across the country work with the sector council to create a close link between what they're teaching and what the employers are looking for. This has developed over the last few years, and fairly well.
I think this works well with the colleges because they are set up to be more job-oriented. As we mentioned, we also have some of that going on with high schools. The problem we have at the moment is with universities. The problem with universities is that they don't quite see themselves as being that job-oriented. There is still a sense of being involved in higher learning. Some faculties, such as business, are much more job-oriented, but we haven't been able to strike that kind of relationship with the universities.
I would hope that NAIT and SAIT are moving in the right direction. Certainly they work with a number of our councils.