Some of us have been working in this area since our children were little. Laurel and I were parents at the York University Cooperative Child Care Centre together, and some of us are now grandmothers—I'm not a grandmother yet, but I could be—but our children are unable to find child care. So we're now in a whole other generation.
You meet people such as the security guard in my University of Toronto building, a young Egyptian guy with two little kids whose wife really wants to work, partly so she can learn English, but also because they don't have enough money, and he's working two jobs. They're on the Toronto subsidy waiting list. He is very interested in politics and he said this was really something he could look forward to. I kept explaining that he wouldn't get child care right away, because it would take time to build the system. But it's people like that who will still be looking for child care down the road, as our children are, if something doesn't happen.
What hasn't happened in Canada is the first step; we haven't really taken the first step. I mean, we took the first step, and it was taken away. That's how we feel about it after all these years. These people who are our children, and their colleagues, aren't going to get child care either. That's how it feels.