Thank you.
The sentiments that Mr. Martin read out are familiar to all of us who work in poverty. Those sentiments are a characterization of absolute poverty as well as relative poverty. I've said that we ought to make that distinction; we ought to measure both types. There is great value in measuring both types.
I think we have to be careful. A poverty line is not a show of our compassion; it is simply a useful way to distinguish those people who are poor from those who are not. If we get that tangled up with emotion and passion, I think we're not going to serve public policy very well.
Those are fine expressions of what it means to be poor. I think we simply have to decompose those two types of measure and measure both absolute and relative. I think it would be a mistake to bulk up an absolute measure by putting in a lot of things that were mentioned, because you are not going to find out how many people are not even covering the basic needs. I think we need to know that, as students of poverty and as policy-makers, and we also need to know how many people are excluded or unequal.
That would be my answer.