One of the key things that would be very helpful here is to ask poor people what they think should be included in the list.
I can tell you for sure that social exclusion or inclusion would be high on their list of items that should be measured. That's the real face of hunger. That's where it hits people hardest. That's where it keeps their kids out of activities, that differentiates them from others who don't live in poverty.
So I think if we're serious about measuring it, it isn't just about the metrics, it isn't just about income; it really is about quality of life, and those things become vitally important to individuals and families, where they live and when they live. So by all means, I think we need to be much more broad-based in terms of measures than simply some of those very simple metrics or some of those income levels. Let's look at what the face of poverty is like in our country; let's figure out what that looks like. Let's measure those things to improve the lot of life of people who every day face this issue individually and with their families.