That's a tough question, Mr. Martin, to give a short answer to.
The point I will make to you is that I think it's important for me to reiterate that this is not just about money. Having money is not necessarily going to resolve the issue of poverty. It's about access. It's about inclusion. There are other things that need to be thought of as well.
Certainly I'm not downplaying the fact that we need the funds to be able to do the kinds of things we need to do, but I just want to make the point that it's more than just an economic issue. It's a social inclusion issue. It's an issue of literacy. There are other things there we need to also get at. So I can't give you a direct answer as to how I think the federal government could do that through the social transfers or whatever.
I just think it needs us to be able to engage in dialogue, the federal government engaging with the various provinces that are now going down the road of poverty reduction strategies and seeing what works for each individual province and trying to then work in conjunction with them, as opposed to maybe having one program that it tries to spread across the country that everybody has to fit into. I think it has to leave itself some flexibility to work with individual provinces on their poverty reduction strategies.