I think part of the challenge there--and I think this is a really honest thing for governments, whatever level they are--is where the revenues come from. They come from the people, and we do have to have accountability. When we're doing that, we have to have accountability.
When Maryhouse closed their shelter, people would still come, and they opened up another shelter. The government was spending $1,000 a night for an emergency shelter. They woke up and realized that they could put people in a hotel room more cheaply if only two people showed up one night needing shelter, so they were going to close that program and do that.
They asked us if we wanted to be a referral, so I asked what it would entail if we were a referral. The first thing they said was that we'd have to find out if they were doing this because they didn't have any money or if it was because they were on a cross-country hike and this was a good place to stay. It's that accountability for how we're spending money and their perception that they just don't want to throw it away.
It's hard. It's hard, and it's back to that question of who's poor and how we judge that, but it's also the responsibility in terms of stewardship: if you're getting the money and you're backing these things, then you want to see the value for your money, and that's a challenge.
