Evidence of meeting #11 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was adoption.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Laura Eggertson  Board Member, Adoption Council of Canada
Barbara MacKinnon  Executive Director, Children's Aid Society of Ottawa
Chantal Collin  Committee Researcher

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Okay. Should we call the question?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

I'll just interject. In setting up “or their full participation”, if I can just speak to that, it sounds like an either/or situation. Maybe for some people they need full participation in the labour market in order to have full quality of life; I don't think you can set it up as an “or”. I'm sure that's not what was meant.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Raymonde Folco Liberal Laval—Les Îles, QC

Put “and/or”.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

Add “and/“or”?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

We could do the “and/or”.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Tony Martin NDP Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Maybe we should take out “full”. How many people with disabilities will not...?

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

This is true committee work here.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

All right. I'm going to read it again. Hopefully this will be satisfactory. It states: “That this Committee, following its study on adoption issues, conduct a major study on a topic specific to barriers that impede the quality of life of persons with disabilities and/or their full participation in a labour market with a commitment to providing solutions with a high probability of success”.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

Maybe we could add “where possible”.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Mr. Martin, does that sound good to you?

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Tony Martin NDP Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Yes.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Then we can vote. All in favour?

5:20 p.m.

An hon. member

Define success.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

I'm sorry. All in favour of the motion as amended?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

Could you read it one more time, Madam Chair?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Do you want me to read it one more time?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

Yes, please.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Okay.

It reads: “That this Committee, following its study on adoption issues, conduct a major study on a topic specific to barriers that impede the quality of life of persons with disabilities and/or their participation in a labour market with a commitment to providing solutions with a high probability of success”.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

Could I just suggest one other thing that I think will be more helpful? Can we just say “and where possible” instead of “and/or”?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

I think “and/or their participation in a labour market” is in the spirit of what we are trying to say.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

That's fine. I mean, we're not going to change the price of the dollar today, so--.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

But it's Mr. Martin's motion.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Tony Martin NDP Sault Ste. Marie, ON

That's fine. I'm okay.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

All right. I think we were voting on it, weren't we? Then I was interrupted. All in favour of the motion as amended?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Savage Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

On a point of order, Chair, before we go on to Mr. Martin's second motion, and with his indulgence, pursuant to what we just passed, I wonder if I could just bring forward an idea that I mentioned to you last Friday about this study on disabilities.