That's a very good question. I must confess I don't know the details. As I mentioned at the outset, when people knock on our door, nothing is working. So we of course have to trace the path, the background to the file.

However, I know that the adoption system in general is very well structured. Services are offered, at the pre-adoption, adoption and post-adoption stages. I believe support is provided through social workers and grants, as necessary. In the case of international adoptions, I believe there is a similar monitoring process, but it is somewhat different from that for an adoption in the province.

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Bloc

Josée Beaudin Bloc Saint-Lambert, QC

Perfect, thank you very much.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen

Thank you very much.

Mr. Martin, you have five minutes.

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NDP

Tony Martin NDP Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Thank you very much for coming today and putting some very viable and good information on the table.

Mr. Levert, your suggestion that we have a federal commissioner of children's rights would be a good thing to explore, given that we've signed on to international covenants on the rights of children and have a responsibility, I believe, as a country to live up to the spirit of that agreement. Maybe you can talk a little bit with us about how that would work, the federal commissioner of children's rights.

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Senior Investigator and Legal Officer, New Brunswick Office of the Ombudsman, Child and Youth Advocate

François Levert

Thank you for the question.

The Canadian Council of Provincial and Territorial Child and Youth Advocates has in fact been advocating for the creation of such a commissioner. If you are familiar somewhat at the international level, France, for example--whom we have dealt with in trying to model what a commissioner could look like--has its own republic commissioner for children and youth. This person would likely be tackling issues that have national challenges that fall under the federal jurisdiction, issues such as youth criminal justice reforms.

We know that Bill C-4 is before the House at this point in time. Maybe provincial child and youth advocates can—if I can use that example—weigh in in terms of being the custodian or managers of the justice system within their own respective jurisdictions. However, the spirit of the act and the whole functioning of the judicial act is done across the board uniformly.

So a federal commissioner would certainly be useful in weighing on some issues that have a broader impact across all jurisdictions. How it would work specifically--certainly in issues such as this one--is this person could be weighing in on the rights and interests of all children across the spectrum. Other issues can include anything related that falls within health concerns under the federal jurisdiction or any international relationships with other countries in terms of adoption or otherwise.

I think that the Convention on the Rights of the Child--if I may use that specific instrument--has a broad impact on a number of programs that are offered through our social safety net. We as provincial advocates have limited jurisdictions. For example, we do not have any jurisdiction over judges, over lawyers, over private matters, over legal representatives, over medical experts. The commissioner's job would likely be one who could exercise his role through the power of recommendations such as we do: guiding, assisting the federal government in either developing or improving public policy.

That is mainly one of the roles we play in the province. I spoke to this effect, about working collaboratively with provincial departments in improving their system and being creative and thinking outside the box, if I may use the expression, in terms of developing public policy.