The reason I asked that question to either Mr. Strachan or Mr. Petrie is that I've had a chance to read the notes that Mr. Vilven had given to us.
On page 4, he says, “The age-60 mandatory retirement provision was implemented at Air Canada by fiat of the Air Canada management in 1957.”
So it's definitely before all of our time. He also says:
There was no negotiation involved. As late as 1980, the mandatory retirement provision was not yet located within the collective agreement or within the Air Canada Pension Plan. It existed simply within the policy documents of Air Canada. In the mid-1980's, the mandatory retirement provision was inserted by reference into the collective agreement itself. When that occurred, at no time did the pilots' union place the question of mandatory retirement before the general membership of the union for discussion or for ratification. It was simply inserted without ratification, and without even advising the membership that that had been done .
Would you care to comment?