Evidence of meeting #44 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
We need the motion, and then you would be free to discuss the motion.
12:40 p.m.
Komarnicki
We're running a little fast.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
Yes, you're adding on, talking about additional witnesses. Could we...?
We were supposed to do clause-by-clause. If we're not going to, then I need a motion.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
I'll get right to the motion.
I was making the point that we hadn't heard anyone who was an expert on the proposed amendments. Having said that, for a whole lot of reasons, which I could get to when we're discussing the main motion, I would suggest that we table the clause-by-clause until we've all had an opportunity to go back to our offices and consider what these amendments mean.
I know the Chamber of Commerce will propose some amendments to have legal people look at this and come back and say whether we want to go with it or not. But we want to get it right. I don't want to proceed in haste and today go clause by clause and start arguing on behalf of any particular amendment without having a good grasp of it.
I move a motion that we table the clause-by-clause for another meeting. I'm not sure how you would bring it back on the agenda, accepting that we would need a little time to get the amendment from the Chamber of Commerce and then have some experts look at the proposed amendments. That's my motion.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
I've looked around the room and it looks like we have a consensus for that. Maybe what I'll do, though, because it looks like there are a few people who want to speak....
If I'm hearing you correctly, we would look at a motion that would say that the clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill C-481 be delayed until the committee can hear from individuals who have expertise regarding the specifics of the amendment. Do you want that added or do you just want it tabled?
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
I think to be tabled to be brought back by any members. On March 3?
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
All right. If that's the motion, then we'll have to discuss it, because it is changing the work plan entirely.
The motion is that the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-481 be tabled....
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
Let's just wait and see what they are going to do. That is setting aside.... You could do it after March 1.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
A colleague of mine--and maybe he could speak to it--is proposing that we not put a specific date to it.
Perhaps he wants to speak to it. I'm not sure. I hadn't put a date on it, but....
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
Do you want a date, or do you want it to say that the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-481 be tabled?
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
Be tabled, period. Maybe you can indicate if you wish....
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
We have a timeframe that we have to work within anyway. I think we're all in agreement. It appears to me that we don't want to deal with clause-by-clause today.
I think if we could get a motion that would at least tell us that, then we could go further, and then probably have a separate, subsequent discussion about the work plan, because we do have certain issues.
Maybe you could revamp this motion and just suggest that we do not deal with clause-by-clause today.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
I think we are all in agreement.
Then we'll discuss the work plan, Maria.
12:40 p.m.
Liberal
Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON
I'd like us to look at a date, though. It's going to take forever.
12:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Candice Bergen
Maria, we'll have to look at a date and agree on a date anyway. But right now it gives us the ability to not go through this clause by clause. We won't do anything else unless we're all in agreement.
The motion on the table right now is that the committee not deal with clause-by-clause of Bill C-481 today. Is that the motion?
Mr. Komarnicki.
12:45 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
That it be tabled, which means I think it can be brought back at some point.
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
Raymonde Folco Liberal Laval—Les Îles, QC
I would like to ask a question.
I would like to bring an amendment to Mr. Komarnicki's motion. I just want to know at what point I can bring my amendment.