Order. I will adjourn this meeting if I don't have order, so please....
No, I'm sorry, Mr. Godin, this is not a point of order that you're raising, that we're now debating. I want to allow Madame Thaï Thi Lac to have her intervention and then I want to proceed with the witnesses.
You're not raising a point of order. I'm sorry, Mr. Godin, turn off your mike, because I will adjourn this meeting if I don't have order, and--