In Dauphin, Manitoba, when they brought in the Mincome experiment in 1975, those rural families were told that if they didn't reach a certain level of income, they'd be eligible for a top-up. It was jointly funded by the Province of Manitoba and the Government of Canada. What they found after the first five years was that dropouts began to reduce, people staying in education began to increase, hostel admissions went down, car accidents went down, arrests went down, in the surrounding and existing community. YOUCAN began. And there's an academic in Manitoba, whom I hope you may choose to call—Dr. Evelyn Forget—who is beginning to indicate what those trends are in terms of savings to very expensive parts of government.
But I think your question is very well taken, because the notion that because you turn one tap the other tap begins to turn off instantaneously is probably way too optimistic. There would be a transition period, as there has been with a host of other programs that have been brought in, in health care and elsewhere, where you empty the beds because you have diversion programs to put people in different kinds of care, but the beds fill up anyway, because at some level demand doesn't necessarily fall off. One would have to look very carefully at those issues and measure the costs quite appropriately.