I recognize what's important for our environment. I totally understand that. We have different ideas of how we do that. The concern I have is that we know that the government does have this information. I know that you, as an economist, would also think that the information is very necessary. You've said that with old age security it was necessary to look into what the poverty was going to be for our seniors. I have faith in you on the part of this government to actually do the dedicated work that is necessary for seniors so that we actually know what the negative impact will be on our senior population due to the increases from this environmental policy.

So perhaps you could stick to that part. There is data that our government has requested that we do not have, and I want to be sure that the information gets out there and we can provide for our most vulnerable seniors who will be impacted by this negative pricing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

You have a very short time to answer.

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Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos Liberal Québec, QC

The data will show that if provinces and territories use the resources that carbon pricing will give them, they can do what we've done in the last 18 months, namely, lift a large number of Canadians, including Canadian seniors, out of poverty by reinvesting those resources and helping the more vulnerable Canadians. We've shown how to do this in the last 18 months. I would expect that provinces and territories in many cases will be inspired by that and do the same thing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Thank you very much.

Unfortunately, that is our time today. I want to take the opportunity to speak on behalf of this committee and thank you, Minister Duclos, for appearing here today. We're very excited to be embarking on this study. We all agree that we as parliamentarians are obligated to ensure that we have a plan and a path forward for seniors.

Thank you to the folks to my left, my right, and behind me for making sure today went smoothly.

I hope Karen's parents have a fantastic visit here in Parliament.

Thank you. We are adjourned.