Evidence of meeting #7 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was unions.
A recording is available from Parliament.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
I don't see that it's red tape. It's interesting that the minister was presented this same prop, and then she was asked, so what are you proposing, Minister? Are you proposing this? In the United States we know that unions are not burdened with this as a requirement down there. Unions are still able to function, so we said, are you looking for something more reasonable then, or are you absolutely eliminating all transparency, all accountability, and that's what the plan is? It's not that. It's not something less that's reasonable. It's nothing—zero transparency, zero accountability. It's not a good example of where Canada is.
Mr. Hynes, you said you supported the transparency of Bill C-525, and that was the secret ballot. I think that for Mr. Kelly it's the same thing. You didn't support the process, but you supported the outcome.
Given the lack of transparency that's being proposed and the lack of secret ballot, which is a fundamental tenet of democracy, then what is the motive? If this is good what we have for our country, what is pushing the Liberal government to go in this direction? Do you have any input on what might be the motivation? Whose back is getting scratched here?
4:30 p.m.
President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Look, I often get shot political questions, and I have to say I am not a politician so I don't answer political questions.
4:30 p.m.
Liberal
4:30 p.m.
Liberal
Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB
Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.
To the member opposite, we do have disclosure. I just want to quote this for the record.
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC
They've already taken enough time, Chair.
4:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
Yes. Let's break, guys. We have to set up for the next panel because we have several video conferences. I do apologize.
I just want to very briefly thank Mr. Hynes, Mr. Fanelli, and Mr. Kelly for joining us again today. Obviously we could have used more time, but thank you all for being here.
We will recess for a very brief technical set-up.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Chair, on a point of order, I'm wondering which clock we're using for record keeping.
4:35 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
We have a time clock, actually, right here as well, so that's what we're using.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
So you're saying you have multiple clocks. Which time are you using?
4:35 p.m.
Liberal
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
For the time that the meeting begins and ends, or is that the time the speaker, the member of this committee, is being given?
4:35 p.m.
Liberal
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
No, I think this is a point of order and it's very important.
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
You can't use a stopwatch for when the meeting starts and when the meeting stops.
4:35 p.m.
Liberal
4:35 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Perfect, and I have a BlackBerry, similar to you, and I believe it's very similar to the clock that's on the wall. The fact is, that clock on the wall is—
