Evidence of meeting #17 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Benoît Long  Chief Transformation Officer, Department of Employment and Social Development
Andrew Brown  Director General, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Danielle Widmer

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I'm totally okay. I will withdraw my motion. Thank you.

(Motion withdrawn)

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Great. Thank you.

Mr. Vis.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Maybe the clerk can enlighten us about the motion previously passed by this committee regarding the appearance of ministers for supplementary estimates. I think that motion still stands, does it not?

Secondly, you guys have heard me berate people about the constitutional responsibility we all have to review how government spends money as well, but I won't enlighten you all with that today.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

No, we remember it well. Thank you.

Madam Clerk, has there been an all-encompassing motion with respect to the examination of estimates that I think Mr. Vis was referring to, maybe something we did on the front end?

5:15 p.m.

The Clerk

I'm looking at it. I will come back off-line and discuss that with members. I'm looking at it right now, if you can give me a moment.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC

That was from MP Kusie.

The committee did, in fact, adopt the previous schedule prior to prorogation. Then there was some back and forth at our first meeting after prorogation about the schedule of the committee. We thought we were going to have the opportunity to study new things, but then it went into something else.

That said, I'm really looking forward to the EI study before us today and the estimates.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Seeing no further hands up, I think we have consensus that we're going to do an examination of the supplementary (C)s. The question is whether we move the questions around availability of witnesses, scheduling and allocation of time for the examination of the supplementary (C)s to the subcommittee.

That's the question. I will say that it was moved by Ms. Gazan. Is there any further discussion on that motion?

Ms. Dancho, go ahead.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I just want to clarify. Can you repeat the motion? I'm sorry. I don't have it written down.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

It's that the committee engage in an examination of the supplementary (C) estimates; and that the questions around the allocation of the time dedication of ministers and officials to appear be delegated to the subcommittee and brought back before this committee for approval.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Ms. Falk, go ahead please.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Can there be a deadline added to that of when the subcommittee will bring that back to this committee?

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

What do you suggest?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

That's a good question. I don't sit on the subcommittee, so I'm not sure how often the subcommittee meets or if it's just at the chair's call.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Yes, it's as needed.

How about the end of next week?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Would the subcommittee be available after the HUMA meeting on Tuesday? I just think that we should get it done, because if we're going to coordinate up to four ministers before the end of March, it's going to be....

As Mr. Vaughan points out, there's spring break, so we'd best do it quickly. I would do it today if everyone was available, but I'm guessing that they are not.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

I can only speak for myself. We will try to get it done with all due haste, but I can only speak for myself. I will make myself available after the meeting on Tuesday.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

I can meet after the meeting on Tuesday as well.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Okay. That looks positive.

Madame Chabot.

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC

If it's possible to do it on Tuesday, I will be available too.

You just have to take into account that sometimes our meetings do not happen at the scheduled time because of voting in the House.

I will be available after the meeting, which ideally will take place as soon as possible. I will also be available during the week when we have no parliamentary business, if it is not a problem for the support team to hold a meeting.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Ms. Chabot.

Ms. Gazan, I thought I saw your hand up. Did you have an intervention?

5:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

No, I didn't, Chair. I'm just concerned because I am available but I don't know what's come into my office in terms of requests—

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

That's fair enough.

5:15 p.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

—and what's been agreed to. I'm wondering if we can tentatively book it but send that out to our offices so that our teams can book it. I don't know what's come in, so I'm scared to book it.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Absolutely. There may also be the question of House of Commons resources that we may have to deal with as well, but we will absolutely shoot to make this happen immediately after our meeting on Tuesday.