Evidence of meeting #31 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
If you could just answer me, Mr. Chair, I'll move on from this. I'm honestly curious.
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Liberal
Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON
Thank you, Chair.
I was listening to the questions and the answers and it's clear to me, and I think to most of the other committee members, that we ended the last meeting by adjourning it, but that doesn't mean that we adjourned the debate, which means that the debate on the motion that was discussed at the last meeting continues on. I think you were very clear on that point. I just wanted to clarify that.
Thank you.
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Liberal
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Bloc
Louise Chabot Bloc Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
I don't know whether it's a point of order. I am actually not sure whether a point of order is necessary.
On Friday, we adjourned the meeting about our work without consensus. So we can resume debate with all the participants and not just on the motions, including Mr. Turnbull's motion. I don't understand the need for a point of order.
In my opinion, the people listening to us would like to know what our next study will be about. I believe that is the important issue.
5:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Thank you, Ms. Chabot.
I think that is the same point as the one raised by Ms. Dancho. I confirmed the decision that I had made previously.
Next on the speaking list, then—
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Conservative
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Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
I'm just wondering, because there seems to be a discrepancy—because what I did read was from the minutes—if the clerk could send out to us maybe what the motion is of Mr. Turnbull, the exact wording.
5:05 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Danielle Widmer
Yes. I reviewed the minutes. I used the motion that was originally submitted to the committee by Mr. Turnbull on.... I'll check the date. Give me a moment. It was October 15.
I see that there was a preamble added to that, and that should have been added to it, so I agree with this. It should be added, because Mr. Turnbull did use the preamble when he did the notice of motion on Thursday, April 29, but I used the notice of motion that was circulated to all members on October 15.
If Mr. Turnbull could submit that to the clerk, that would really be appreciated—with the preamble.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
I think that explains the discrepancy, Ms. Falk. The minutes, it appears, relied upon the notice of motion and not what was actually said at the meeting. What was said at the meeting included the preamble. Given that you weren't at the meeting, it's entirely understandable that you would rely on the minutes, which, as it turns out, were incomplete.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Can I get that sent around so I could move an amendment?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Of course.
Are we relying on Mr. Turnbull to do that or, Madam Clerk, do you have that before you?
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The Clerk
If I can get a copy of the motion from Mr. Turnbull, that would be greatly appreciated.
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Thank you.
All right, colleagues. The motion on the floor is that the study proposed by Mr. Turnbull be conducted after the study that was put forward by Ms. Falk on February 2 and accepted by the committee in respect of seniors. That is the amendment.
We'll have the exact wording momentarily, but if it pleases the committee, I'm going to now entertain debate on the amendment, beginning with Mr. Johns, please.
5:10 p.m.
NDP
Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC
I'm sorry. I'm actually waiting for my turn to raise my hand after Mr. Turnbull's motion.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Okay. Am I back to Ms. Falk or am I out of order here?
Ms. Falk, go ahead.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Chair, I'm just waiting on the actual wording of the motion.
May 4th, 2021 / 5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, we're waiting for the text of Mr. Turnbull's motion to be circulated to the Conservative member so she can read the full report and knows then how to stage her amendment. Is that the position we're in right now?
