Actually, the countries that always come out the best in international rankings by organizations like UNICEF and the OECD, are actually the Nordic countries, particularly Sweden and Iceland.
Are they perfect? I wouldn't argue they're perfect because if you talk to people from these countries, there are things that they don't like.
The countries that always do the worst are the countries where they have a child care market where they haven't developed....
In our one year that this has been in play.... This is only the first year. Those countries have been developing their child care systems for years. There are written descriptions of how they did it, what the setbacks were, what the pitfalls were and what they did right. There's a great one about Sweden and how it developed. It's not perfect; it goes up and down.
The countries that do the worst are the countries.... I will comment on the for-profit issue here. Australia is probably the best known example of a country that became dominated by large corporate firms, even before the private equity companies got into the game. New Zealand is in the news right now because private equity firms just want to assetize child care. They're not even child care companies; they just bought them up. It's a problem to have small, better-quality child care that can be bought up because that's mostly the way these large financializations have occurred in child care.
There's a very big study in the U.K. of how the money works—