Absolutely, and it's so wonderful to see you around the table. I'm very proud of spending 30 years in Hamilton, growing today's family.
In Hamilton we were lucky to be part of the Fast Start, and I'm not sure if.... Fifteen years ago, with Fast Start, there was a lot of data in support of smart growth in three different areas of our province, and I think there is a lot of data that we could probably learn a lot from if we could dig that out and find the best way to move forward.
Definitely working with the community is.... Municipalities in Ontario are excellent sources of managing the child care system. Municipalities can leverage relationships with school boards within their cities and help us plan a comprehensive plan for early learning and child care by utilizing schools to capacity, utilizing municipal buildings to their capacity and using other buildings that are taxpayers' buildings that have already been built or can be retrofitted so the investment stays in neighbourhoods.
As for the Canadian Child Care Federation, we do believe in publicly managed and publicly funded. Even with the not-for-profit versus profit factor, if we have strong agreements on how that money is going to be spent on wages, with perhaps a scale for rent or leasing so that we have a really good understanding of what it really costs, and we do that market study to make sure that people aren't taking advantage of public dollars....
There is a lot of work to be done, but we have some great examples in Ontario, in my opinion. I'm speaking for the Canadian Child Care Federation, but I spent my life in Ontario and I know we could make this happen.