There's mutual benefit there for government and industry alike. These are our workers and our talent of tomorrow. We want to attract people to our communities but also train those people close to home, as I said, as much as we can.
The other thing that's challenging for our members is when the rules of the game change on a regular basis. This is where we should be leaning into multi-year funding. I know that with some of the YESS or the youth employment support programs under ESDC, we had a number of organizations that were funded quite consistently year over year. Then they all stopped getting funding.
There is the case of the outland youth employment program, which to me is a model program for indigenous youth aged 16 to 19 across northern Canada. They had to close a couple of camps at the last minute.
My advice is that the benefit is very clear on both sides, but if my members and our union partners were sitting here, they would talk about consistency and multi-year planning to allow people to really invest and have confidence in making more investments in some of those programs for the future.