I'll spend my last minute and a half on the issue of credential recognition.
When a lot of people think about credential recognition they think about the professions they interact with—often health care. You have important issues around credential recognition in the forestry sector.
In previous engagements I've heard that many Ukrainians who came here, in particular as part of that wave after the start of the further invasion, had backgrounds in forestry, but there were issues in credential recognition. When we fail to recognize the credentials of people who come to this country it's a double negative because they're not able to work, and there are problems in the jobs they could work in. Also, they end up competing against young people in entry-level positions.
I notice the government included some discussion of this in their latest announcement. The fact is that they already have an existing fund that is supposed to be doing this work and is not doing it successfully. We put forward some proposals on credential recognition.
What are your reflections on the link between credential recognition and job creation and how it plays out in your sector?