I wanted to respond, through the chair, to some of the things I have heard. Mr. Joseph commented about how this would set a precedent. I don't think that's true. There have been production orders requested over many different Parliaments, whether in the House or in committees, and they have been produced. I don't think that is a factual argument. It isn't something that will set a precedent, because it's been done before.
As for Ms. Fancy's point about vulnerable people, I would argue seniors are a vulnerable population and many weren't receiving their OAS given this system changeover. I also see a contradiction in that. Our committee is responsible for a lot of different things. What we're responsible for is maybe a debate for another day, but at the end of the day I know that this has been brought up in other committees. It's interesting to me that the Liberals are filibustering at different committees.
We're hearing a lot about how we're not listening to the witnesses. If the Liberals would stop filibustering and stop talking, and stop doing whatever the PMO is wanting them to do, then we would pass this and move on. They can start, whoever it is in the department, getting the things that are being asked of this committee so that we can be here for those we represent, which is also our seniors, some of whom aren't receiving their OAS payments.
At the end of the day, it's Liberals who are obstructing, they're filibustering, they're delaying, and they're avoiding transparency. To say that the minister has done everything she can.... We never suggested it would be millions of pages or cost millions of dollars. If the Liberals are saying that, it makes me wonder what they are hiding. What is being hidden when it comes to the benefits delivery modernization? Cúram is just one aspect, and we're here wanting to know why. These are pretty simple questions.
The Liberals need to stop filibustering, stop delaying, stop obstructing and vote for this amendment so that we can be transparent with Canadians and effective for Canadians, and at the end of the day, serve them in the best of our capacity to do the work here.
Pass the amendment. Let's move on and let the bureaucracy do what they need to do, which is to produce these documents, and then we can get to the work that Ms. Fancy so urgently wants to do.
I would say that she should encourage her whip's office and the PMO to stop filibustering this at both committees in which this is happening and let this pass so that we can move on to finish our housing study and other studies that we have on the docket. I look forward to the Liberals' yes vote on this.
Thank you.
