The way to do that is by offering it to all children. That's how you remove the stigma. If you target it, then parents don't want their children to participate, and then you end up with the quality getting worse. I mean, there are all sorts of problems with that. We need to have programs that are offered to absolutely all children. Like I said, it doesn't have to be free for all children.
Our Atlantic provinces have pioneered the pay-what-you-can example, and that could be something that could be rolled out across the country.