Look, I think I have a great scenario for you. I have multiple facilities, and I take the time to walk to all the little industrial units that are around me. At one time, they were filled with little companies that were fabricating and machining, and now they're mostly service sector types of jobs oriented around moving furniture or providing some other type of service.
With respect to your question on red tape, I dropped by a small steel fabricator. He's been doing it for 15 or 25 years out of this unit. A young person came by the other day working for the town. He walked in with an iPad and started writing up infringements. A skid was against the wall—that's an infringement. The air make-up unit was not interlocked—that's an infringement. There was another thing and another thing, and by the end of two hours, there were $5,000 to $8,000 of administrative costs and small details to fix that were working perfectly fine. There were no safety issues, but there was some new compliance.
The owner talked to me and said, “I have $8,000 less to invest in my people. That's $8,000 less that I have to invest in my company.” It's absolutely ridiculous. The number of people employed by the government to be involved with every type of issue, whether it's building.... You can talk about the conservation authorities or the building departments or the municipalities. God forbid, you can't do much in Canada without being saddled with at least 10 levels of something to go through in order to get an objective achieved.
The red tape still exists on every level. I think it's a function of too much government.