Mr. Chair, I appreciate that the parliamentary secretary wasn't able to be at the steering committee and planning committee, no doubt. But one of the things I had mentioned initially is that when we're dealing with, say, sponsorship, as we will be on Thursday, November 30, we should deal with a series of witnesses who give a broad perspective on all of the issues, so you can then come to some conclusion. We've heard at least two parties directly or indirectly on sponsorship and to do with refugees, and now we're having another one. There is no place there where all of us can say, here is who you should hear on a comprehensive basis so you can have some kind of conclusion at the end.
The other point is on the security certificates. For instance, I notice that in the agenda you have the Harkat committee, perhaps family members—I think there was some material passed—and Mary Foster, who I think is perhaps an advocate in that regard. I'm not sure how that relates to refugees. Perhaps I'm missing something, but—