Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
One of the things they have in the European Union is standards for human rights, and all members that are part of the European Union have to adhere to them. They even have the European Court of Human Rights, which forced changes to the security certificate process for England. The same situation doesn't exist between Canada and the United States.
I've always had reservations about this, and I think it was very much driven by 9/11. Just to give a clear example of where we differ from the United States on norms, clearly we have the Arar case. We cleared Mr. Arar but the United States has not. They still have him on a no-fly list. That's a good example of the norms.
There's another thing I'm worried about, Professor. You mentioned Latin America. There's quite a bit of tension arising in Latin America, with what's happening in the various countries. Every time there are democratic elections there seem to be more tensions arising between the U.S. and Latin American countries, such as Nicaragua, Venezuela, Brazil, and the list just goes on.
If I look back in history, I look at what happened to the El Salvadorans. The U.S. government backed a particular junta for El Salvador. Most notably, there was what happened with Chile, where the democratic government of Allende was overthrown by Pinochet, who was found to be and condemned as a human rights abuser responsible for the deaths of very many people. I believe probably about 50,000 Chileans found haven in Canada. If they were captured in the U.S., the practice tended to be that they were sent back, and then they would be some of the people who disappeared under Pinochet.
With that in mind, I wonder if you could comment on some of the situations and experiences that you know of in the United States in terms of what happened to the Chileans. They ended up being very much a valued group in Canada. Heck, we even had a member of Parliament from that background. So could you comment on how the U.S. treats people they consider hostile, if you will?