Evidence of meeting #46 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rad.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Malcolm Brown  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Micheline Aucoin  Director General, Refugees Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Eric Stevens  Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Paul Aterman  Director General, Operations Branch, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

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Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

For an amendment to be on the floor, to my understanding it has be moved and also seconded. The substance of what Mr. Jaffer--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, it doesn't have to be.

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Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

But what Mr. Jaffer is suggesting is debate.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, that's not correct. It doesn't have to be seconded.

Mr. Jaffer.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

As I was saying before I was so rudely cut off by Mr. McTeague, the Honourable Andrew Telegdi moved a motion without taking into consideration the fact that in the last round of questioning, only one government member asked any questions relating to RAD. Almost every opposition member asked a question. All we were trying to do was extend the time in this particular round--

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

That wasn't the case.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

In the last round, yes, it was.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm still speaking. I have the floor.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

In moving forward, one of the things this committee has done...and I have been a member of this committee for close to three years now, it seems to me, in opposition for almost two years, if not more, and now in government for almost a year. One thing we took pride in, as I think Mr. Telegdi would agree--

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

Okay.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

One thing we took pride in, and Mr. Telegdi can vouch for this, was that we had a great spirit of cooperation on this committee. It never interfered with the work the committee did. If there were serious concerns raised by members on this committee relating to time, relating to the order of precedence when it came to questioning, relating to the material at hand, there was always consideration given to the points raised and to the fact that members may have valid interests on particular issues.

So in moving this amendment, I think it's clear what I'm trying to suggest, that any particular ability for us as members to deal with Bill C-280, especially if we have questions for witnesses.... I know I had some questions from the previous witnesses, and I was--

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Point of order.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Are you finished, Mr. Jaffer?

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm not finished, but are you recognizing the--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Okay, a point of order, Mr. Siksay.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

On a point of order, Chair, I didn't hear Mr. Jaffer actually move an amendment. I heard him call for a request for a friendly amendment. So unless he's prepared to move an amendment, I think he should be out of order. He is giving argument, he hasn't moved an amendment, and he's out of order.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Is it my understanding that you moved an amendment, Mr. Jaffer?

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I will move it officially at this point, if the chair so wishes.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, he did not move an amendment, so he is out of order and should not have the floor.

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Conservative

Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB

No, as a committee member, I have the floor. I'm not out of order.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

No, you're not.