Citizenship and Immigration Committee on March 29th, 2007

[Blair Wilson, Liberal, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, order.

I'm going to Mr. Jaffer, on continuation of his motion.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

That's right. The rules are clear that when you move a motion and it's recognized, as it was, then the floor is given to that particular member.

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

Rahim, it wasn't recognized. Until I intervened--

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order. Order, please.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Mr. McTeague should know, being a previous chair of a committee, that you're allowed--

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

Read the blues.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

If Mr. McTeague didn't realize my motion was moved, since he wasn't paying attention the first time I moved this motion, I'll make my arguments all over again for his benefit, so he can know why I think this motion is so important.

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

Point of order, Chair.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Clearly, when a friendly amendment is made--

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

Point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

We have a point of order, Mr. Jaffer.

Mr. McTeague.

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

Chair, I would urge you and your clerk to look very carefully at the blues and my first inquiry, which will demonstrate beyond any doubt that there was no clarity on your behalf. You subsequently reversed that in the intervention you had with Mr. Wilson. I'm simply trying to get from the chair, as opposed to Mr. Jaffer's intervention, which now appears to be dilatory tactics to prevent the committee from doing its work--

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

You could have let me speak.

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

If you would simply look at your blues and confirm that you in fact reversed yourself.... I'm not going to ask on any point of order, because it would not be in order for me to challenge the chair, but I want to demonstrate that the confusion emanated from you and your clerk.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

First of all, we don't have any blues we can go to.

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

You will.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

It's my understanding that Mr. Jaffer moved the motion. I then recognized him to speak to his motion.

[Blair Wilson, Liberal, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

That was a mistake.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

It was not a mistake. As I've mentioned, by the rules of any committee, when you, as a member, move a motion you can speak to that motion. And when you've finished speaking, then you vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

I will ask Mr. Jaffer to continue with his motion.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

And wrap it up whenever--

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

As I said earlier, Mr. McTeague is a veteran member of committees. I think he has been a committee chair. He knows the procedure. I understand--

[Dan McTeague, Liberal, Pickering—Scarborough East, ON]

On a point of order, Chair, I've never been a committee chair.