I'd like to ask what's appropriate political involvement versus, I'll call it, bureaucratic or competence-based involvement in terms of appointments. I think this is an interesting subject area.
Before I go there, I have to say this to my Liberal colleagues on the committee. When we're talking about the inappropriate use of political appointments, I think people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Two members of your caucus had their husbands appointed to this committee.