Evidence of meeting #63 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was board.
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Conservative
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
Okay.
I think it's a fair motion as amended.
I, myself, have been part of the Law Society of Saskatchewan. Bodies that self-govern do set professional standards to deal with issues of discipline, ethics, professional training--those kinds of things that obviously have had some sore spots in the consultant's area of operation.
I think it's well worth doing a study on that. I would be in support of that motion, and I guess we will, as a group--
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Mr. Chair, could I make a friendly suggestion to Mr. Siksay?
If we were to drop the words “immigration consultants who work independent of CSIC”, that opens it up for us to bring in immigration consultants who could be critical of the work the body is doing or immigration consultants who are friendly. That way we don't skew it, and we don't get people's backs up.
Okay, Bill?
Conservative
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
If I can, Mr. Chair, we're dropping the words “immigration consultants who work independent of CSIC”.
NDP
Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
No. Let's drop the words, “who work independent of CSIC”, so it reads that we're inviting “members of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC), immigration consultants and individuals who have used the services of immigration consultants”.
Conservative
Bloc
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Let's vote on the amendment.
It will read:
That the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration study the issue of immigration consultants, that the committee invite members of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC) who work independent of CSIC--
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
No. You're dropping the words “who work independent of CSIC”.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Okay. We're dropping that.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
On the main motion as amended.
Madame Faille has a word on that.
Bloc
Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC
Yes. I want to add, at the very end of the motion, “and that Citizenship and Immigration Canada explain to us how it currently applies the act.” I would like us to invite CIC officials because this legislation already exists.
I want to be specific as to why they're coming, because they don't apply the legislation.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Let's see what the clerk has that clarifies this, because frankly I've lost it.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Samy Agha
As I understand Madame Faille's motion, it would add at the end of the motion, “and CIC officials”.
So you want to invite members of the Canadian Society, immigration consultants, individuals who have used the services of immigration consultants, and Department of Citizenship and Immigration officials.
Is that correct?
Bloc
Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC
Yes, CIC officials.
I want the officials who come to tell us how... The legislation exists. There is a section, in the Immigration Act, which requires official representatives to represent would-be immigrants. The problem here is that the legislation exists and the department is not applying its own legislation. I want it to come here to tell us what efforts...
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
The analyst makes a good point as well. She says that we should add there, “That the committee invite, among others, those who might...”. That would broaden it to allow for other individuals to be brought forward.
So we have—
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Is there a time limit that we're going to put on this? Is there a date, Bill, to submit names?
NDP
Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC
I think we just refer it to the agenda planning and see how the agenda works out in the fall.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
All in favour of the motion as amended?
(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
That's that.
The motion from Mr. Karygiannis.
Would you read your motion into the record, Mr. Karygiannis?
Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Mr. Chair, I would like for us to deal with both motions, that we freeze the clock at 1 o'clock, if that's okay with everybody?