It's incredible that a person who's ultimately responsible for her own ministry, namely the minister, would not be able to understand all these problems. It's baffling. This is why I'm having such a hard time getting my head around the political motivation of this bill, because it's so self-evident that you can't govern by not consulting. You can't govern by railroading the bill through a budget bill. You just simply can't do that. This is not how democracy works.
It's very puzzling that these flaws are so self-evident. People who come in front of us, the vast number of them, are now saying to just scrap the bill because it doesn't make sense.
So that's why when the minister comes, I need to actually ask her, “What is it really? What is the agenda? What is it that's really motivating these reforms?” Quite frankly, it's certainly not the backlog, because we've determined that already. Everybody agrees it's not about the backlog.