Evidence of meeting #44 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was instructions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Richard Fadden  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Les Linklater  Director General, Immigration Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Andrea Lyon  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Joan Atkinson  Visiting Assistant Deputy Minister, Canada Public Service Agency, As an Individual
Daniel Jean  Associate Secretary, Senior Associate Secretary's Office, Treasury Board Secretariat, As an Individual

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

In the advertising of $1.6 million, I believe it is--

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

It is $1.1 million.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

$1.1 million. Is the word “C-50” mentioned anywhere in there?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

Let me look.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I'm sure the deputy must know the ads. At the end of the day they were okayed by the department. It was $1.1 million.

May 13th, 2008 / 5:15 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I know, Mr. Chairman, that we referred to legislation before Parliament; I just don't know if we used the expression “Bill C-50”.

Here it is. I have it now, if you'll give me 30 seconds.

I do not see “C-50”, Mr. Chairman.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Are all the ads identical in all the newspapers?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I don't know, Mr. Chairman.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Fadden, sir, your department, in which on a daily basis you are hands on--and you have your folks here with you--okayed a particular ad. Are the ads similar in all the papers? Yes or no.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I would say they are similar, Mr. Chairman.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Are there any words omitted from one ethnicity to another?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I have no idea, Mr. Chairman. I would assume not, since the objective was to provide the same information.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Would you undertake, sir, to advise this committee whether all the ads that were given out for translation were the same ads, and if all the translations were done correctly?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Mr. Fadden, would you also undertake to let this committee know in how many of those papers the minister gave interviews?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I would be happy to ask that and report.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

As well as editorials that were written supporting the position of the department.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Richard Fadden

I'm not sure I understand the last part of your question.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I'm sure you can call for the newspapers of that particular day. All the ads appeared last week. You can call the newspaper and see whether the minister gave an interview.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

A point of order.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

You know, I'm sick and tired of your points of order.

And then, Mr. Chair--

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

A point of order means you need to stop.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

There's a point of order.

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Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

And then, Mr. Chair—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

There's a point of order.