Evidence of meeting #16 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 40th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was asked.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Charles Sinclair  Attorney, As an Individual
Pura Velasco  Member, Caregivers Support Services
Magdalene Gordo  Member, Caregivers Support Services
Richelyn Tongson  Member, Caregivers Support Services

9:30 a.m.

Attorney, As an Individual

Charles Sinclair

The question was, were you there?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

I was there.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

You were there.

According to some media reports, Minister Kenney has offered each of you immunity for coming forward with this information. I quote: “Mr. Kenney's Citizenship and Immigration Department has told lawyers acting for the women that they will not be penalized for acting as whistleblowers or for providing information about offences.” That's from The Globe and Mail, May 11, 2009.

This committee, I'm sure, would be very interested if you could share the details of this arrangement with us. When was this arrangement made?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

There's no arrangement, as far as we know. From my end and from the other women, there has never been any arrangement that was made to us.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Is this an inaccurate statement by The Globe and Mail? Is that what you're saying?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

Yes, there was no arrangement.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

There was no arrangement, but you were at the meeting.

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

Yes, I was at the meeting--

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

As well as Ms. Gordo?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

Okay. I was at the meeting.... Ms. Gordo and I were at the Peter Fonseca meeting, and there was no arrangement.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

The meeting of the 26th is what we are talking about.

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

Okay. The meeting on the 26th was organized by the Filipino community with Jason Kenney's ministry, and there was no arrangement. He was even noncommittal to the recommendations that we presented.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Okay, I have some more questions here.

As of today, has either of you filed an official complaint concerning your treatment by any member of the Dhalla family, or is either of you in the process of doing so?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Pura Velasco

Can I answer that question?

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

I think you should all answer the question.

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Magdalene Gordo

I called the nanny hotline.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Pardon?

9:30 a.m.

Attorney, As an Individual

Charles Sinclair

She called the nanny hotline.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Have you filed a complaint?

I'd like an answer from both of you, if it's possible.

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Richelyn Tongson

Yes. We filed a complaint in the nanny hotline.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

What was the name of the agency you worked for?

9:30 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Richelyn Tongson

It was Akemi's agency.

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

This agency is run by Akemi Taniguchi, correct?

9:35 a.m.

Member, Caregivers Support Services

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Do you still work for her today?