Evidence of meeting #3 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was application.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Chaplin

9:40 a.m.

Liberal

Maurizio Bevilacqua Liberal Vaughan, ON

Mr. Chair, I think we're taking too long with these procedural things. Either we all have to learn procedure better or we have to have our points down pat before we get here.

9:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm going to suspend for a minute or two and you guys can have a chat off the record.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Order, please.

We've got a subamendment, we've got an amendment, and we've got a motion. Is there any debate?

Mr. Shory.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

Mr. Chair, before we move forward, you may want to ask Ms. Chow to replace the word “sponsorship”, in the third line, to “sponsored”. That will make more sense and give clarification.

9:45 a.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

A sponsorship application.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Devinder Shory Conservative Calgary Northeast, AB

It's a sponsored application.

A sponsorship application, Mr. Chair, is made by the person who sponsors the spouse. An application to be a permanent resident of Canada is made by the applicant himself--

9:45 a.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

If that's what she said--

9:45 a.m.

An hon. member

That's why I added it.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I was trying to give everybody a lot of leeway here, but I'm going to have to start getting picky.

We're on the subamendment. That's what we're on. Otherwise, we're going to be bogged down on this.

Is there any debate on the subamendment?

Monsieur St-Cyr.

9:45 a.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

I just want to make sure that we are talking about 30 actual days, 30 calendar days.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

That's what we're talking about. That's the debate. It's on the subamendment.

9:45 a.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

I want to make sure that we are not talking about 30 sitting days, but 30 calendar days.

9:45 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I said “calendar”.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Are you putting in that word?

9:45 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Sure, just to be clear.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there further debate on the subamendment?

9:45 a.m.

An hon. member

Call the motion.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Dykstra, on a point of order.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

I just want to point out that according to Standard Order 109, the government has 120 days to respond if a committee requests it. The committee doesn't have the power to amend that necessarily, obviously according to the standing order. They can request the government to table a response in 30 days, but it's non-binding.

So go ahead and do the 30 days. It's non-binding.

9:45 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

On a point of order, perhaps then Ms. Wong's motion is redundant, given that the government already has the responsibility to report.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Mr. Chair, it's actually not the case. It's not the case, because you didn't ask for a response.

When you get a response, the government has 120 days. We will do our best to get it back to this committee within 30 days--

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Alice Wong Conservative Richmond, BC

We have to ask.

9:45 a.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Not this committee--

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

It's going to come back here. We'll get it back here from the House. If it's done in 30 days in the House, it's coming back here.

9:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there further debate on the subamendment?

Ms. Chow.