No, indeed. We do not see it as an adversarial process, by any stretch of the imagination. We see it as an information exchange process. There are definitely pieces of information we need to obtain from refugee claimants, the sort of information that's currently found in the PIF, the personal information form.
In addition to that, we see it as an opportunity to provide information to the claimant, for example, if they aren't at that point represented. We would expect to work with bar associations in order to be able to provide lists, perhaps of counsel who've indicated they're willing to work pro bono, or for legal aid. We would provide that sort of information. We would hope to be able to provide much more detailed information about how a hearing will take place, the sorts of questions that people might be asked at the hearing, and that sort of thing.
In our current context, people arrive and they often have children with them during the hearing. When they come to the interview we'll be able to tell them what to do when they come to the hearing with their children, so that even though the children have to be there, there's somebody to look after them while the hearing is taking place, for example.